Success and the church

CPP #276

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This week Pete Mitchell and I discuss Success and the church. To get straight to listening click here and to download in iTunes click here.

People view success in different ways. For some it’s financial success, when you stop living week to week and are able to start saving and having a buffer. For others its about reaching people, when you finally start making connections, having people come to the lord, and then start needing others to help you. It’s an interesting place to be because for many people they do not know what to do next. Today we talk about how to deal with being successful and making sure that you continue to move forward in the right direction instead of taking steps back.

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Hi Everyone,

I hope you enjoyed this series on the real life factors of becoming a bi-vocational minister. If you missed any of the posts you can find links back to them here.


Types of Employment


In summary, Ninjas have catlike reflexes. They can move smoothly, and effortlessly like a cat, and always land on both feet. Relationships, family, work, and ministry are hard to juggle, and when trials hit, it’s always like that ball too many that causes it all to collapse. That’s why you can’t assume that you can do everything. Life tragedies hit. People die. Life goes sideways. If you think you can keep it all in the air, you’re right for a while. And then you’re wrong. Very wrong. But you don’t realize it until it all comes crashing down.

Buy Peyton’s newest book “Reaching The Unreached: Becoming Raiders of the Lost Art” over on You can also download a free chapter and watch a cool trailer for the book HERE or click the image below.


Five Star Friday


What I’m contemplating – Wow…keep reading the ninja newsletter over the next few weeks to get the skinny on this one. It’s deep, and morbid. I’m thinking about death. I’m thinking about fame. I’m thinking about eternity.

What I’m reading – I finished reading a book about the making of Labyrinth, the Jim Henson film from the 80s. It was Henson’s last movie, and it bombed when it came out. It’s since been redeemed as a massive cult hit with a significant and loyal following. Initial numbers and reception don’t always mean anything. Jim was a bit discouraged that it didn’t do as well as it should have, but it reminded me that the earthly reception or opinions of others really mean little in the eyes of God. His value is eternal, and He works by different metrics.

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Once you’ve earned the money, you need to manage it effectively. Bi-vocational ministers can’t afford to have much debt, no pun intended. There are a few more factors to balance in your personal finances so that you don’t get in over your head finanacially.

  • Designation – It is important to keep your personal finances, the church’s finances, and your business finances completely separate. Bi-vocationalism does not mean that you rob Peter to feed Paul, or that you dip into funds that your family needs to survive. If you find yourself bailing water in one area of finance, you must resist the temptation to pour resources from one bucket into the other.
  • Debt – The most important factor in managing your personal finances is to get out of debt and keep out of it. It’s considered good practice in general to postpone church planting and starting a business if you’re in debt. Debt is the major liability that can tip the scales towards bankruptcy in your personal finances, or that of your business. There are multiple ways to eliminate debt, and remain out by adopting a lifestyle of not living beyond your means. Visit for more information.

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Giving in your church

CPP #274

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This week Pete Mitchell and I discuss Giving in your church. To get straight to listening click here and to download in iTunes click here.

If you decide to plant a church, many times you might be backed by another church or by people for a certain amount of time. But most of the time that funding will run out and the church will need to be funded by itself to continue. This can be a major issue for many as tithing has become more of an option for many people that it used to be. In today’s podcast we’ll talk about how things have changed and things you can do to aid your congregation in contributing the growth of the church.

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